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Philip Primeau's avatar

Very edifying.

The common polemic against "imaginative prayer" is especially frustrating. I'm happy to admit imagination's limits, even its dangers. But if it can't be piously devoted to divine things, it's effectively excluded from the sanctifying bath of divine light, and hence irredeemable.

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Adam X's avatar

With regard to the following quote, the goalposts have been shifted a bit. “The Catholics recognize that the living tradition of the Church can make pronouncements and clarifications on the deposit of Faith, that immutable Truth given by Jesus Christ, as they are currently and always guided by the Holy Spirit.”

The Orthodox believe this. What they do not believe is that clarifications can create new dogmas. That’s basically the rub and heart of the matter. If the Orthodox and Catholics were to reunite based on the shared faith of 1054, the Orthodox would say great. Any post 1054 Orthodox clarifications (I’m thinking mainly of the Palamite ones) would be viewed as compatible with the faith beforehand. Now, that is, of course, debatable, but that’s the viewpoint. But Catholics could not accept such a reunion, because no one in 1054 accepted the infallibility of the pope. In other words, Orthodoxy sees itself as backwards compatible in a way that Catholicism cannot. Unless of course, one wants to hold that Christians believed the pope to be infallible before 1054, but they didn’t. A matter of salvation for today’s Catholics was not even a theological opinion before the schism—it was nonexistent.

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